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Topic: Cherokee Harrah's
Posted By: CaroLyme
Subject: Cherokee Harrah's
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2007 at 4:27pm
Has anyone been to Cherokee Harrah's in NC?  I'm going next week and was wondering what the best VP games they have there, where they might be located, etc.  Any info would be helpful.
Thank you



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Posted By: rascal
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2007 at 1:22am
I have only been once and have made no effort to ever return. Indian casino, captive audience, non-competitive games, no gaming commission enforcement, and the strongest drink served in the place is Dr. Pepper (dry county). Sucker's paradise.


Posted By: shadowman
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2007 at 6:38pm
I was there in 2000 and rascal's response accurately describes my experience. I played Shamrock Sevens VP and it seemed like the best of a bad lot. It's a variation of Joker Poker with a bonus tied to getting 3 or more sevens.


Posted By: Nadine
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2007 at 8:04pm
I go to Cherokee often and play video poker.  When you enter the casino, there are several very large video poker machines.  The one on the right really plays off.  Alot of the video poker machines are designated to play one poker game.  I like to find a machine that has all the games on it so I can change if I want to.


Posted By: faygo
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by shadowman

I was there in 2000 and rascal's response accurately describes my experience. I played Shamrock Sevens VP and it seemed like the best of a bad lot. It's a variation of Joker Poker with a bonus tied to getting 3 or more sevens.
 
My last Royal (.50)  was at Cherokee, same trip $1 deuces. Nice rooms, great Cream Puff. Rascal don't you take a traveler?


Posted By: New2vp
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2007 at 10:07am
Originally posted by shadowman

I was there in 2000 and rascal's response accurately describes my experience. I played Shamrock Sevens VP and it seemed like the best of a bad lot. It's a variation of Joker Poker with a bonus tied to getting 3 or more sevens.
 
Do you remember even approximately what the pay schedule looked like?


Posted By: booger
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2007 at 5:29pm

I PLAY AT CHEROKEE ABOUT 2 TIMES A MONTH. SHAMROCK SEVENS IS THE

BEST VP GAME IN THE COUNTRY. SO EVERYBODY DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ


Posted By: fishingman
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2007 at 11:24am
it's not to good if you don't get the little man for the pot of gold,it will break you holding one 7 trying for the bonus.i have seen people toss a 4 card st. flush draw and hold one 7 


Posted By: shadowman
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2007 at 5:18pm
RF - 1000
WRF - 1000
5K - 2500
SF - 250
4K - 70
FH - 40
FL - 25
ST - 15
3K - 5
P2 - 5
 
The key is a bonus round whenever 3 or more 7s appear. I estimated the bonus is worth about 60 extra credits on average for 3K,FH and 4K. I programmed this into vpfreebie and could play pretty even so I expect the game is fairly close to 100%. Of course, my short exposure could be way off with this estimate. Maybe booger can give us a better estimate.
 


Posted By: mtnowl64
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2007 at 1:26am
We use to come to Cherokee for years before we moved into the area two years ago.  My husband and I work at Harrahs and believe me there is gaming commission enforcement.  It is a dry county but not everyone likes to sit and drink alcohol while they play.  Therefore, everyone has a good time without fear of trouble - or drunks falling in your lap.  Shamrock 7's is a really good game and as they say, when you bet big, you win big.  When you roll the right pot you can triple your credits.  Keno is one of my favorites and pays pretty well.  Lovin-the-mountains.


Posted By: Lis713
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2010 at 1:02pm
Started serving booze late 09.
Shamrock 7s is the game to play in the VP.


Posted By: faygo
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2010 at 6:00pm
They are investing over 600K in the place. New Hotel will add 532 rooms.


Posted By: captnpat
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2010 at 8:20pm
Just started playing Shamrock Sevens. Trying to figure out the best plays. Five of a kind is the jackpot. If you are dealt a pair plus one seven do you keep the pair and the seven or just the pair. I am having trouble figuring out the best play.


Posted By: New2vp
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2010 at 8:35pm
In order to answer that question you need to provide the entire pay schedule for the game.


Posted By: captnpat
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2010 at 11:22am

Thanks New2vp. I am really only looking for a technique type of answer from someone who plays the game regularly. I am not sure of the ratio applied to the pay schedule. I only know that the jackpot is for five of a kind and the seven's bonus pays well as a general rule. Not to mention a good payout if you end up with a full house with either three sevens or two. You get the full house pay plus bonus round if you hit the three sevens full house. Any regular players out there with a tip? I just recently started playing the game at Harrah's Cherokee Casino. Can't find any trainers or tips online.



Posted By: shadowman
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2010 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by New2vp

In order to answer that question you need to provide the entire pay schedule for the game.
 
5oak-500
RF or WRF-200
SF-50
4oak-14
FH-8
FL-5
St-3
3oak-1
2P-1
 
When you hit 3 or 4 sevens it puts you into a bonus round. I estimated the average values as such:
 
quad 7s-26
trip 7s-13
FH 7s-20
 
Of course this was based on one nights play almost 10 years ago, so it's probably wrong. The game has one joker.


Posted By: shadowman
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2010 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by captnpat

Any regular players out there with a tip? I just recently started playing the game at Harrah's Cherokee Casino. Can't find any trainers or tips online.

 
Hold single 7s.
Hold 3 for a flush if you have nothing else. Also go for inside straights.
Don't hold a 7 kicker.
Don't hold face cards unless you have two suited.
Hold four for a flush over a pair (except 7s).
 
Send me your email via PM and I will send you a program that allows you to practice. There are lots of other strategy changes over normal joker poker. You can adjust the paytable if you think my estimates are wrong.


Posted By: captnpat
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 2:39pm
Thanks for the input! The recommendation to not hold a seven kicker is what I was looking for. The rest of the game is fairly straight forward. Thanks again for everyone's help. Now all I need is a machine that rewards decent play.


Posted By: JWS74
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 6:58pm
I've been to Harrah's in Cherokee, NC twice in the last month and think it's a great place, players get complimentary rooms depending on how you play, and they do serve alcoholic drinks there, they're not free, but they do serve them.. you get soda's and waters free while you play.. and Paula Deans Kitchen restaurant has the best food you can get (I highly recommend the chicken pot pie, it's delicious)
The VP machines are located all around the casino, with different bet rates... (ie, .25/hand , .50/hand and $1/ hand)
they have penny slots and so forth as well.. it is a great place to go to just have some fun and try your luck..



Posted By: faygo
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2011 at 7:01pm
jws74, gad you enjoyed Cherokee however we spent two days there whie Irene was visiting and I found the VP deplorable. Bartop .25 SL ddb 6/5, $ & $5 bp 7/5.  Luckily we stayed at a Holiday Express , "stay smart", and didn't play them. We opted for the $5 "Lock & Roll" machines.  Hit the 5  times pay for $2500, $10 Double Diamond for $1600 and  a Triple Diamond for $1500. Tanqueray hit one for $1250.  Coming back to Irene's damage we needed  the winning trip.


Posted By: billyjoe
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 9:53am
Sorry that Irene was cruel to you Faygo.
We usually go to Cherokee once a year, in July, while we are up in the mountains for a summer break from Florida. I agree, I do not like the VP availability there, and have told them so. They did add a Seven Star lounge with their latest renovations, so that is nice. Also, the new Tower has some magnificent suites, which we were able to stay in this past July.  I told our host that, if he wanted me to make any additional trips up there, they would have to add some decent VP.   


Posted By: faygo
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 7:21pm

billyjoe. thank you. Maybe just maybe Harrahs and the Cherokees will come to their senses.



Posted By: Vol
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 12:38am
VP Fans,
 
I will be at Harrah's Cherokee this Friday evening.  I am confused by the advice above on Shamrock Sevens to not hold a 7 'kicker'. Sevens  and a joker are  wild, right?  Is a hand like 6667 or 666J (J = joker) considered to be 4 6's? Is this 7 considered to be a 'kicker' or is a 'kicker' only 66667?  If dealt 667 why wouldn't I hold 667 vs,66?  What am I missing here?  Do I understand correctly that  66777 or 6677J pay more than 66677? Do each of these pay at the 5oak rate but the hand with 777 pays a bonus?
 
On another topic, is there still a Paula Dean's restaurant and is it any good?
 
A long shot - anybody else going to be there this Friday (9/23)? 
 
Vol


Posted By: faygo
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 1:56pm
Paula Dean's resturant is still there. JWS on page two of this thread highly recommended the Chicken Pot Pie.
 
Good Luck!


Posted By: lblmhgo
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 5:24pm
If I am not mistaken, the 7s are not wild but you do get a bonus if you get 3 of them.


Posted By: Vol
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 12:52pm
I visited Cherokee Harrah's (CH) last Friday.  Here are some comments.
 
Video Poker
 
In regard to CH's signature Shamrock 7's game, lblmhgo is right, the 7's are not wild.  Since 5oak is the highest paying hand, there must be at least one wild card. I never saw it. Neither did I get three 7's so am not sure how the bonus works.
 
Most of the newer VP machines with JoB or DDB are 6-5. I did find some older 9-6 machines nearby.
 
The VP machines are distributed among the slots, so I might have missed some, but I did not see a single multi-line game, let alone any STP or  Ult X.
 
Some of the newer games have the ability to change the bet after each hand.  There is a fixed coin, but you can choose any multiple, for example $2.00 per hand on a $0.25 coin.  This is a nice feature, but it does change the pay table in sme cases.
 
Also on the newer machines, there is a double-or-nothing opportunity after each paying hand. I found it annoying after a while.
 
Other Comments
 
There is a lot of construction, mostly visible outside.  Inside it is very nice.  There are very few restrooms in the Casino and these  are hard to find.  Don't wait too long before you start looking.
 
The blackjack tables have live dealers, real chips, but all virtual cards. I've never seen this combination before.
 
All in all, there are some clever new games, but the fundamentals are eroding.  It is a new experience.  
 
Vol 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: mws813
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 6:26pm
They had 3/5/10 hand last time I was there only two machines near Total Rewards Desk.


Posted By: Mikeinri
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2011 at 6:51pm
The vpfree2 database shows they have NSUD in $5 machines if you can stomach  that.


Posted By: mws813
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2011 at 2:26pm
Just got back from here and they do have two 25 cent 3-5 hand machines and two 5 cent 3-5 hand machines. other than that all single hand. Pay tables and play SUCK!!!! Worse I have ever experienced.... Did see alot of slot winners though. But most were playing about $10 a hand....


Posted By: snewbfire
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 3:28pm
I was just at Harrahs Cherokee the middle part of September.  My game of choice is Double Double Bonus Poker.  From what I found they have no full pay machines.  The best paytable is by the old Fresh Market Buffet where DDB paytable is 9/5.  For the most part the rest of the machines paytable is 8/5.  Stay away from the bar top machines because all of those paytables are the worst on the market.  Most 6/5.  I didn't play any Jacks or Better because the paytables were HORRIBLE!!!!!  Most machines set at 6/5, the only ones that had higher paytables were also by the old buffet, 8/5.  No competition so paytables are pathetic because people have nowhere else to play.  As far as slots go, found them to be tight also.  But as they say you can usually tell how loose the slots are by the VP paytables, so tight, tight, tight.


Posted By: faygo
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 6:40pm
Harrahs have decided  they want their money back. Since I left Cherokee with a lot of their coin, I have now received offers for 2 night  stay, paid plane trips to Harrahs AC, Caesars AC and Harrahs Tunica. All this from a Casino that wouldn't let me talk to a host. They are just going to have to wait until the next Hurricare. Big%20smile


Posted By: billyjoe
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by faygo

Harrahs have decided  they want their money back. Since I left Cherokee with a lot of their coin, I have now received offers for 2 night  stay, paid plane trips to Harrahs AC, Caesars AC and Harrahs Tunica. All this from a Casino that wouldn't let me talk to a host. They are just going to have to wait until the next Hurricare. Big%20smile
You 'Da Man' in their eyes now, Faygo. Shows you what the hosts know..LOL



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